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		<title>By: cadbloke</title>
		<link>http://icanhazdot.net/2008/09/19/million-dollar-idea-quickbooks-myob-for-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>cadbloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get mad - get even. Get legal advice on that one. You might have a case for suing them for fraud or theft. If you can&#039;t sue them I&#039;d be contacting Quickbooks and transferring the license to a new installation on your computer - then they are operating Quickbooks without a license. Ditto for whatever else you can track down. Whatever you do - don&#039;t break any laws.

Then ask yourself why the hell you paid for it yourself in the first place. People have paid a lot more for less-valuable lessons. I bet you won&#039;t do it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get mad &#8211; get even. Get legal advice on that one. You might have a case for suing them for fraud or theft. If you can&#8217;t sue them I&#8217;d be contacting Quickbooks and transferring the license to a new installation on your computer &#8211; then they are operating Quickbooks without a license. Ditto for whatever else you can track down. Whatever you do &#8211; don&#8217;t break any laws.</p>
<p>Then ask yourself why the hell you paid for it yourself in the first place. People have paid a lot more for less-valuable lessons. I bet you won&#8217;t do it again.</p>
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		<title>By: jaguar</title>
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		<dc:creator>jaguar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 14:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m angry. I purchased Quickbooks Pro 2008 for the company I worked for, paid for it, installed it, and then they fired me.  I have all the registration information and I want to disable it; however they have changed all the passwords.  Everything I used there I had to purchase - they used - and after I trained the idiot boss - I was out.  Any ideas how to disable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m angry. I purchased Quickbooks Pro 2008 for the company I worked for, paid for it, installed it, and then they fired me.  I have all the registration information and I want to disable it; however they have changed all the passwords.  Everything I used there I had to purchase &#8211; they used &#8211; and after I trained the idiot boss &#8211; I was out.  Any ideas how to disable.</p>
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		<title>By: Accounting Change</title>
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		<dc:creator>Accounting Change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The complexity of Accounting software is a reflection on the complexity of the Tax System, and the more complex the system the more it makes Accounting hard, and keeps Accountants in a job!

The example in the article highlights how complex things are in Australia, and that is probably .0001% of the rules that would be required to achieve a truely automated system. By the time you had worked through all the questions that needed to be asked to determine the tax outcome (As per your example) - it would have been cheaper to hire a bookkeeper - I bet you you earn more than them.

So I would suggest putting your focus to questioning the Tax System - the so called Simplified Tax System is a joke - sure might provide a tax benefit - but you spend more money in compliance than you would save. So direct your anger to the Tax Office.

Also remember MYOB and QuickBooks are more than Accounting - they provide Business Management - and if you are running a good business - you will use them to help Manage your Business (Sales, Purchases, Receivables, Payables, Payroll etc) - if you want to run your business with a Shoebox of Receipts or Excel - no problems - just don&#039;t expect to get any business management value out of it unless you build an Business Management system in Excel and then sell an Accounting system - of course that would not be SQL so based on other comments would suck - but of course if you are a small business with no need to have heaps of users - who gives a %^$$# about SQL :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The complexity of Accounting software is a reflection on the complexity of the Tax System, and the more complex the system the more it makes Accounting hard, and keeps Accountants in a job!</p>
<p>The example in the article highlights how complex things are in Australia, and that is probably .0001% of the rules that would be required to achieve a truely automated system. By the time you had worked through all the questions that needed to be asked to determine the tax outcome (As per your example) &#8211; it would have been cheaper to hire a bookkeeper &#8211; I bet you you earn more than them.</p>
<p>So I would suggest putting your focus to questioning the Tax System &#8211; the so called Simplified Tax System is a joke &#8211; sure might provide a tax benefit &#8211; but you spend more money in compliance than you would save. So direct your anger to the Tax Office.</p>
<p>Also remember MYOB and QuickBooks are more than Accounting &#8211; they provide Business Management &#8211; and if you are running a good business &#8211; you will use them to help Manage your Business (Sales, Purchases, Receivables, Payables, Payroll etc) &#8211; if you want to run your business with a Shoebox of Receipts or Excel &#8211; no problems &#8211; just don&#8217;t expect to get any business management value out of it unless you build an Business Management system in Excel and then sell an Accounting system &#8211; of course that would not be SQL so based on other comments would suck &#8211; but of course if you are a small business with no need to have heaps of users &#8211; who gives a %^$$# about SQL <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Coffee Machines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coffee Machines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with your comments, until recently.

Once the bugs were ironed out (and it should never have been released with so many bugs) QuickBooks i series is AWESOME.

I was a vocally very critical of this product when it first laucnhed but with the latest version it is stable and very intuitive (and beeing based on SQL very usable)

My wife does the accounting for our two businesses on Quit Books Premier 2008 and she is not an accountant and this product rocks.

I HATE MYOB but for small businesses that turn over staff regularly it is the industry standard unfortunatly. Their SQL version is due for release in late 2009 so after 17 years it may suddenly also be more usable. Watch this space!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with your comments, until recently.</p>
<p>Once the bugs were ironed out (and it should never have been released with so many bugs) QuickBooks i series is AWESOME.</p>
<p>I was a vocally very critical of this product when it first laucnhed but with the latest version it is stable and very intuitive (and beeing based on SQL very usable)</p>
<p>My wife does the accounting for our two businesses on Quit Books Premier 2008 and she is not an accountant and this product rocks.</p>
<p>I HATE MYOB but for small businesses that turn over staff regularly it is the industry standard unfortunatly. Their SQL version is due for release in late 2009 so after 17 years it may suddenly also be more usable. Watch this space!</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loads of my clients use MYOB, simply because it seems to be the defacto standard for small business/sole trader accounting in Australia.  I used to do all my accounts in Excel, but I switched to MYOB because it was slightly easier to track referral sources (for marketing purposes).

However, I was somewhat shocked to find that MYOB are basically still selling a Windows 3.1-era program with just some updated tax tables.  Both myself and many of my clients have issues with the text size not scaling correctly to larger resolutions.  Maybe when this software was first built everyone was running 640x480, but nowadays when the default resolution of most PC&#039;s is up around 1280x1024, MYOB looks ridiculous.

And let&#039;s not forget MYOB Premier - a great idea with a piss-poor implementation.  Have the developers at MYOB not heard of SQL????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loads of my clients use MYOB, simply because it seems to be the defacto standard for small business/sole trader accounting in Australia.  I used to do all my accounts in Excel, but I switched to MYOB because it was slightly easier to track referral sources (for marketing purposes).</p>
<p>However, I was somewhat shocked to find that MYOB are basically still selling a Windows 3.1-era program with just some updated tax tables.  Both myself and many of my clients have issues with the text size not scaling correctly to larger resolutions.  Maybe when this software was first built everyone was running 640&#215;480, but nowadays when the default resolution of most PC&#8217;s is up around 1280&#215;1024, MYOB looks ridiculous.</p>
<p>And let&#8217;s not forget MYOB Premier &#8211; a great idea with a piss-poor implementation.  Have the developers at MYOB not heard of SQL????</p>
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		<title>By: cadbloke</title>
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		<dc:creator>cadbloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still using this pile of steaming crap - only because I&#039;m too lazy to find anything new.

2 tips to getting Quickbooks running in Vista, particularly to get around the access violation error when it starts up. If you&#039;re reading this then you will already know that the error dialogue it spits out is particularly uninformative. Get used to it - the rest of Quickbooks is pretty-much the same.

1. It depends on Internet Exploder. They don&#039;t tell you this because they are hackers and their program is a pile of steaming shit. Moving right along ... Open Internet Explorer, Click ... Tools &gt; Internet Options &gt; Security tab &gt; Internet zone &gt; Custom Level &gt; Medium-High (Default) &gt; Reset

2. Disable UAC for Quickbooks. Google that one cos I&#039;ve suddenly lost interest in hacking around Quickbooks.

I have had it running on Windows Server 2008 too. It also seems to play ok with Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2

If anyone knows of something infinitely more usable that encompasses GST/VAT (particularly in Australia) and isn&#039;t MYOB then I&#039;d love to hear about it. It needs invoicing, doesn&#039;t need inventory or payroll.

Good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still using this pile of steaming crap &#8211; only because I&#8217;m too lazy to find anything new.</p>
<p>2 tips to getting Quickbooks running in Vista, particularly to get around the access violation error when it starts up. If you&#8217;re reading this then you will already know that the error dialogue it spits out is particularly uninformative. Get used to it &#8211; the rest of Quickbooks is pretty-much the same.</p>
<p>1. It depends on Internet Exploder. They don&#8217;t tell you this because they are hackers and their program is a pile of steaming shit. Moving right along &#8230; Open Internet Explorer, Click &#8230; Tools &gt; Internet Options &gt; Security tab &gt; Internet zone &gt; Custom Level &gt; Medium-High (Default) &gt; Reset</p>
<p>2. Disable UAC for Quickbooks. Google that one cos I&#8217;ve suddenly lost interest in hacking around Quickbooks.</p>
<p>I have had it running on Windows Server 2008 too. It also seems to play ok with Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2</p>
<p>If anyone knows of something infinitely more usable that encompasses GST/VAT (particularly in Australia) and isn&#8217;t MYOB then I&#8217;d love to hear about it. It needs invoicing, doesn&#8217;t need inventory or payroll.</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
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